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[DC*3]Jp^Uk
06-13-2004, 05:24 AM
Hey guys, been registered for a couple of weeks now but dont know much about you all on here :P are the n e game programmers out there who are in the industry? How long you guys been game programming and which area you want to work in the games industry if your aiming to get there anyway..? :D

anubis
06-13-2004, 07:26 AM
i've been coding for 5 years now. i did some things with qbasic before but that wasn't any serious programming :) i'm currently studying comp.sci in germany i would hope to get a job in the industry after that

[DC*3]Jp^Uk
06-14-2004, 06:56 AM
ah right cool good luck to you dude! :yes: :D I'm going on a computer game development course in september, did the first year of one but leaving my current university as im not happy there or with the course, what "they" think a computer game development course is stupied, they dont even play games. But this current course im going on rocks! Get a years work exerience as well in the games industry :D I got plently stuff to keep me busy over summer with coding etc and math/physics work lol

So anubis dude, how many games you written? If any do you have any links to where i might play them? :D

anubis
06-14-2004, 07:22 AM
i'm the tyoe that writes a game and once it reaches the playable stage looses interest :) i'll mail you some stuff i wrote. or probably just put it on my ftp... i'm mostly interested in graphics theory rather than games though. games just have the merit that they are a really stressing test environment plus the result is something enjoyable ;)

[DC*3]Jp^Uk
06-14-2004, 08:35 AM
ok cool thnx! :D lol so your a John Carmack kinda guy with the graphics huh :)
I wana work on logic or AI but havnt explored all areas yet so im still not sure which area's i really wana do :wacko:

anubis
06-14-2004, 04:27 PM
lol so your a John Carmack kinda guy with the graphics huh

heh, i wish... but hopefully getting there in the future ;)

[DC*3]Jp^Uk
06-14-2004, 05:54 PM
:D lol that guy is just soooo far ahead of everyone else, hes a god! lol Tell you what i read a book caled "Masters of Doom" by david cushner and its about romero and carmack and their life stories and right in their heads whilst making doom, excellent book!!!! a must read!!!

anubis
06-15-2004, 01:27 AM
he's not a god... he may be good but i don't understand why evreybody trades him as the godfather of game programming. it's not like he's the one who invents everything. take normal mapping for example... (farcry...). in general he is far overhyped. don't get me wrong. he is good as hell but that doesn't elevate him on some throne of codeing

DrunkenCoder
06-15-2004, 03:18 AM
he's not a god... he may be good but i don't understand why evreybody trades him as the godfather of game programming. it's not like he's the one who invents everything. take normal mapping for example... (farcry...). in general he is far overhyped. don't get me wrong. he is good as hell but that doesn't elevate him on some throne of codeing
How refreshing! I though I was alone about having that opinion about Carmack, and here you are basicly saying the exact same thing that I've always said about him.

Yes he's good, at what he does, and an excellent coder but lets not forget that there's a lot of talent in the industry.

anubis
06-15-2004, 04:11 AM
How refreshing! I though I was alone about having that opinion about Carmack

dito :)

i'm sure that carmack, too, is currently working on the next gen technology but the unreal3 engine videos make everything else that exists right now look like dirt.

[DC*3]Jp^Uk
06-15-2004, 05:40 AM
lol I was refearing how he was a GOD at the time of doom when he took technology further than no one else had lol I repsect him for that, but tbh he aint a gamer, romero is a gamer, carmack just wants to code and no play, romero got sakced by carmack for playing too much doom3 over network lol

coelurus
06-15-2004, 06:38 AM
Romero quit for other reasons, there was quite some trouble over at iD at times IIRC.
Carmack's good, but it's not what he does visually that is cool (btw Far Cry is not really the start for normal mapped characters). It's all about the engines. Compare his products to any other. Unreal's engines are nice, but not as top-notch in quality as iD's stuff. Another figure I look up to is Yann Lombard, _the_ guy over at GDnet a little while ago. Dunno about how VTales' toy performs, but it's a real killer.

As for the intention of this thread; I'm not a professional, neither do I aim to be (will study physics in uni). Have programmed for ~6 years and I'm currently working on a "game kernel", Hades. Mihail around in this forums is supposed to be in the same group, but I'm working all alone atm :)

anubis
06-15-2004, 08:09 AM
Far Cry is not really the start for normal mapped characters

obviously... i was just pointing out that more often than not mr C. is credited for the wrong things. i have read in some many places how cool doom3's normal mapping is, etc.

i'm looking forward to what id's next engine will have to offer but right now unreal 3 is at the top for me

baldurk
06-16-2004, 01:44 AM
Another figure I look up to is Yann Lombard, _the_ guy over at GDnet a little while ago. Dunno about how VTales' toy performs, but it's a real killer.
He has actually returned, albeit in a lesser form.

zenogais
06-16-2004, 05:23 PM
I've been programming for about 5 years now, game development is the reason why I first got into programming, but now I find my interests lies in many fields of software development. I'm doing quite a bit in the field of game console emulation atm, believe it or not game programming and game console emulation aren't very far removed. I've written a game engine using SDL which I've not bothered to release, but I hope to refine it and eventually rewrite it using DirectX/OpenGL, so it can be cross-platform among other things. You can check out my current emulation projects (which are open source btw) Right Here (http://www.zenogais.net/projects)

anubis
06-17-2004, 10:15 AM
I'm not a professional, neither do I aim to be (will study physics in uni)

i can onyl adivse anybody to at least either take complementary physics and/or math courses. most people underestimate how many things, especially from your physics classes will return (optics for the most part if you are into graphics) while studying comp.sci. almost every kind of interactive simulation (like games) is based on some physical constraints. right now i study comp.sci but am pondering about getting my diploma in math afterwards (while preparing for my phd in comp.sci :))

coelurus
06-18-2004, 07:02 AM
I figured it's better the other way too before I started studying. You really don't learn a whole lot going to computer science courses, not much more than what you learn at home anyway. Plus I rather use computers as tools to play with ideas rather than having ideas for computers. A personal matter of taste of course.

bladder
06-18-2004, 10:57 AM
Another figure I look up to is Yann Lombard, _the_ guy over at GDnet a little while ago.
Yann > Carmack * 2;

anubis
06-18-2004, 11:36 AM
You really don't learn a whole lot going to computer science courses

i doubt it... actually i think it's rubish :)
it greatly depends on your university but i like mine and i can learn a lot about topics i otherwise might have never cared about but should have.
well, ok, i admit it might only be of use if you want to be a professional programmer.

coelurus
06-20-2004, 06:59 AM
Perhaps my statement was a bit simplistic, I meant more like "for programmers, computer science courses don't give much". I've been hardcore-programming for, uh, 6-7 yrs (when I'm interested , I'm not hooked, I'm obsessed :D ) and I had a look at what you learn in computer science. Frankly, that course seems a lot more boring than having programming as a hobby. My older brother studies electro-something which includes a lot of what comp sci has and that ain't my thing... Ah well, personal matters are not really things you debate about, just my thoughts on the subject :)

I don't compare Carmack or Yann, because there is a significant difference; Carmack has released a heap-load of suburb games/engines/whatnot which are masterpieces in most ways, but Yann has only released awesome shots and a lot of great info. They both are on the top of my idol-list, just in different categories :) Tim Sweeney is neat too, but not quite up to par with the others.

anubis
06-20-2004, 12:49 PM
probably most people get the impression that comps sci is boring because the first semesters only cover basic stuff

anubis
06-20-2004, 02:01 PM
thinking about it, the main reason for me to study comp.sci is the fact that it opens a whole world of quite interesting projects for me (like rt raytracing in saarbrücken, etc.)

davepermen
06-20-2004, 02:09 PM
har har, saarbrucken..

we meet again at saarbrucken..

it was called "we meet again at love parade" years ago:D

anubis
06-20-2004, 04:02 PM
love parade... meh... since it is no more all of these raver freaks come to bremen, for we have the biggest techno parade in germany now (vision parade). bloddy tossers... if rave had a taste it would taste like cheap sparkling wine... well, actually it would taste like xtc... i hope they all die horribly and painful !

sry, had a tough weekend with these guys and their idiot music

coelurus
06-20-2004, 04:08 PM
The Internet is a good place to find neat programming projects, that's my way of keeping up :) Plus having my own ideas on tackling things.

You were around in a place you don't really like? Or how did you get in contact with 'em?

anubis
06-21-2004, 12:13 AM
they flodded the city this weekend. damn techno parade... i really don't mind them but idiots on xtc get kind of annoying :)

The Internet is a good place to find neat programming projects
well...i doubt that you can participate in building soccer playing two legged robots over the net (the last robocup was in japan so you also get to travel around). you know, it's real research you are doing for some time.

coelurus
06-21-2004, 07:02 AM
I'm glad I live in a quiet little town, nothing trippy happenin' around here.

I've built some bipeds myself with shifting COG, not really for playing soccer though. The thing is, I'm curious and I wanna learn a lot. Robotics, programming etc has been my main interests for quite a while and so I happened to find and figure out much myself (they are in fact not overly tricky if you keep within obvious bounds). If I wanna be educated, it should be in some area where it's really hard to figure out things or be about matters that is really hard to find or grasp. Technical matters haven't been the hardest obstacles for me to overcome, so I look for something else :) Anyway, this ain't leading anywhere useful so those is my last words on this. I've said more than "a bit" about myself regarding the thread title...

anubis
06-21-2004, 08:00 AM
agreed